Comments on: Redemption: Eyes Open and Crying http://www.astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying.html A Border Collie Manifesto Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:25 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Edward Diggs http://www.astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying.html/comment-page-1#comment-635 Edward Diggs Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:35:03 +0000 http://astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying-2.html#comment-635 Eugenics was actively practiced on humans in the United States around the 1900-1920 time period; i don't remember exactly what years. Law enforcement would would choose a household and sterilize everyone there. It happened in some regions more than others. I heard on C-Span once that one third of the sterilizations occurred in California. An interesting perspective of the time is that a lot of rich people thought that their success was due to genetics and the poor were just composed of weak blood lines that need to be wiped out for the betterment of the human race. Eugenics was actively practiced on humans in the United States around the 1900-1920 time period; i don’t remember exactly what years. Law enforcement would would choose a household and sterilize everyone there. It happened in some regions more than others. I heard on C-Span once that one third of the sterilizations occurred in California.

An interesting perspective of the time is that a lot of rich people thought that their success was due to genetics and the poor were just composed of weak blood lines that need to be wiped out for the betterment of the human race.

]]> By: Christopher http://www.astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying.html/comment-page-1#comment-633 Christopher Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:41:56 +0000 http://astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying-2.html#comment-633 BINGO. Eugenics says it all, and it is still alive and well in dogs. It's so pervasive, it's very hard to even judge where someone is on the scale. If you believe in breed, you believe to some degree in Eugenics. If you believe in agricultural improvement, you believe in some degree in Eugenics. If you want to marry and breed with talented hot people, you too believe in Eugenics. And yes, you can't deny that when humans took that to an extreme, millions and millions of people died. BINGO. Eugenics says it all, and it is still alive and well in dogs. It’s so pervasive, it’s very hard to even judge where someone is on the scale.

If you believe in breed, you believe to some degree in Eugenics. If you believe in agricultural improvement, you believe in some degree in Eugenics. If you want to marry and breed with talented hot people, you too believe in Eugenics.

And yes, you can’t deny that when humans took that to an extreme, millions and millions of people died.

]]> By: Edward Diggs http://www.astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying.html/comment-page-1#comment-632 Edward Diggs Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:35:44 +0000 http://astraean.com/borderwars/2008/12/redemption-eyes-open-and-crying-2.html#comment-632 This explains a lot of the history that I was not aware of. I would never guessed that a lot of animal rights groups existed around 1900. That was a time where humans were denied basic rights and abuse of workers by their employers went unchecked. If I had been alive I would have been fighting for basic human rights. I would not have distracted myself with fighting for animal protections. And you would think that animal rights organizations would have worked to save animal lives rather than executing them. Perhaps the reason I cannot understand the ethics of our current shelters is because the ethics come from the evil times of around 1900-1920 when compassion consisted of forcefully eliminating selected humans from the gene pool. This was a policy called eugenics and it had wide support. This explains a lot of the history that I was not aware of. I would never guessed that a lot of animal rights groups existed around 1900. That was a time where humans were denied basic rights and abuse of workers by their employers went unchecked. If I had been alive I would have been fighting for basic human rights. I would not have distracted myself with fighting for animal protections.

And you would think that animal rights organizations would have worked to save animal lives rather than executing them. Perhaps the reason I cannot understand the ethics of our current shelters is because the ethics come from the evil times of around 1900-1920 when compassion consisted of forcefully eliminating selected humans from the gene pool. This was a policy called eugenics and it had wide support.

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